051 - Stop Sharing Boring Content! Try New Strategies (Like ChatGPT)

One reason people shy away from posting content on LinkedIn and other social media platforms is that they are afraid of being judged—and not in a good way. If that's you, don't miss this episode. 

Ryan Anderson, Content Strategies and Visual Storyteller at Banish Boring, joined me to discuss removing “the boring” from your content marketing efforts.  

Topics included

🔹Blending professionalism and fun when creating content for LinkedIn and other social media platforms

🔹How Ryan got started writing parody songs (which is something he's known for) and the results of that

🔹Crafting winning content and a content marketing strategy with ChatGPT

And so much more

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Transcript

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Well, good morning, good afternoon,

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good evening,

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wherever you are joining us from.

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It's good afternoon for me

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and good evening for my guest, Ryan.

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And I am so excited to have you here.

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I kind of met you through

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our mutual friend, Jillian Whitney.

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I saw you at least twice on her show.

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And the last time I was like, oh,

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I've got to have him come to my show.

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And I was so absolutely delighted.

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when you said yes.

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I just,

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thank you very much for the invitation.

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Well, you know, I just, you know,

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you are just endlessly innovative and I'm,

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I just love, love what I,

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what I see of you on LinkedIn.

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So before I just keep

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yapping away here for

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anyone who doesn't know you,

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please tell us a little bit

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about who you are and what you do.

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Sure.

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Well,

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for those who can't read on the screen,

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Ryan Anderson is my name

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and Banish Boring is my game, I suppose.

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My tagline is Banish Boring,

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Stop the Snoring.

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And it took me a while to arrive at that.

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And that was through my own

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experiences on LinkedIn,

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which is my platform of

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choice and pretty much not anywhere else.

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And it was because I was just finding

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that a lot of content,

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a lot of marketing in general,

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a lot of just business

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activity out there is the same old,

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same old, just everyone's just playing,

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singing off the same song sheet

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doing the same sorts of things.

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And they don't seem to be

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really taking risks.

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There's this whole thing

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about being professional

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and all that sort of stuff.

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And if anything,

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I'm the sort of guy who'll

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get into trouble for not

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being professional enough.

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So for me,

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I just find a lot of that sort

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of stuff boring.

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And so I have gone into the

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sort of space where I like

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to experiment with

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different types of content.

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sort of put myself out there,

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even if it's a bit embarrassing.

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But ultimately, I want to have fun.

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And if I'm not having fun,

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I don't believe others are.

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So I help other people to do that.

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I help people who are

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struggling with their content,

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perhaps they're in a bit of a block,

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They're bored of their own

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content and they possibly

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suspect that their audience

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might be bored too.

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So I want to help them

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banish boring from their

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content and thus banish

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boring from the feed so

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that when we're scrolling, I mean,

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can you imagine scrolling

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and you're just one great

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piece of content after the next?

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Whereas at the moment, it's not that.

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There are some great content

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creators out there, but it's also boring.

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very easy to scroll through

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because we're seeing the

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same sort of messages,

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the same look to everything.

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So yeah, for me,

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it's just about how can I

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do this for myself firstly,

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so I wanna practice what I

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preach and then how can I

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help other people to

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identify what boring means

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for them and their audience

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and move past that so that

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they can reinvent their content.

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Can you unmute yourself, Annette?

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Yes, of course.

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Thank you so much.

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So, you know, as I'm listening to you,

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I'm feeling kind of guilty

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because I am kind of in a

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video rut myself right now.

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I'm in kind of in a, you know,

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I think some of my content, you know,

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I try to make it

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entertaining as well as educational.

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But with video,

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I have to say that a few years ago,

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I used to be a little bit more,

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You know,

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just just taking risks or doing

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things that are different.

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And now I've become a little

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bit more like kind of, you know,

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I need to I need to put

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that up on my wall across

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from my desk to banish the

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boring and stop the snoring,

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which I just it's like it's

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so hard to come up with a

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clever and yet clear phrase.

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You know, I mean, it's so easy.

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Before I had this shift in

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my life several years ago,

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I was a magazine writer.

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And so I love the idea of

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having the clever titles

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and all that stuff.

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But, you know, you really,

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clarity has to be there as well.

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So when...

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When you're talking about boring,

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and I think a lot of people suspect that,

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and I have to say,

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some of the most

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interesting content creators,

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particularly with video that I follow,

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are all over in the UK,

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which I don't know if that

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says something about...

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you all over there, something in the water,

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or if it's just, I don't know,

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but I do find that.

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That's interesting.

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I wasn't aware of that.

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And I think that's one of the great things,

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isn't it,

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about LinkedIn is that you'll be

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following people that I

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don't necessarily know.

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So I'm possibly missing out

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on great content I've not yet seen.

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And

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Nice to know that it's

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coming from my neighbors.

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Well,

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I do follow a very clever and

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talented communications

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coach who was on my show

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several months ago in London,

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who does a lot of videos

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that are very much satirical.

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And so educational.

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And I've been recently

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studying the different types of content.

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And that whole idea of

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edutainment is really sort of taking off.

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And one thing,

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because you mentioned the

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idea of being professional.

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And I'm sure you're aware, as I am,

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most of the people I know are,

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that LinkedIn is really

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leaning more into video

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with the new video tab that

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they're rolling out to the mobile app.

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And so that has also had me

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rethinking my content.

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I mean,

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it seems that while there are still

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people with the LinkedIn as in Facebook,

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that

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that it is becoming more of a, you know,

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edutainment space than this

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formal educational space.

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So what do you think about that?

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Well, I think, yeah, I mean,

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this isn't Facebook thing.

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I mean, that belongs on a shirt,

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doesn't it?

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Sort of ironically or something.

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It's a burn, yeah.

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Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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Let's do a shirt burning.

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But for me,

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I think one of the first signs

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of LinkedIn perhaps letting

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its hair down was the

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introduction of the

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laughing reaction that we can do.

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because I was getting tired

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of having to love

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everything because you can love something,

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but what do you love about it?

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So when something is outright funny,

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that's the emotion you need.

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So I think for me,

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at some point they realized,

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you know what, a lot of people, I guess,

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however they were measuring it,

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are actually letting their hair down.

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They're having fun here.

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They're making each other laugh.

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Let's

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Let's move towards that.

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Let's respond to to that emotion,

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to that behavior.

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And so I think, you know,

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that's not to make out as a

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professional is over here

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and fun and laughter is over here.

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But I do think.

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You know,

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sometimes professionalism is

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deemed to be suit and tie.

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Tell people you're going to

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be at an expo or at an

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event and tell them you're

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releasing version 27 of your software.

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Come and see you.

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You know, and I mean,

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that that was me once upon a time.

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OK,

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that was me when LinkedIn was the place

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I uploaded my CV to, basically.

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And that was that was it.

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You know, my resume was.

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So yeah, I think for some people,

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they see it that way

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because that's all they know.

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They're connected to people

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who are the same.

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We all get stuck in these

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little echo chambers for

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better or for worse.

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And getting outside of those,

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being connected with people

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who are not in your industry,

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people you can learn from,

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I think that's gonna be one

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of the first things you can

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do to start actually

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realizing that the earth isn't flat,

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that you can actually sail,

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you can leave the island

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and you can find other people

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So anyway, all of that is to say, yeah,

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around professionalism that I think,

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number one,

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what do we really mean by that?

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I'm not asking for a

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dictionary definition.

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I just mean it's possible to

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be just a decent, fun,

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enjoyable to be around,

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enjoyable content person.

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whilst not coming across as

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completely inappropriate.

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And I think some people think that, no, no,

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I have to just, no jokes, no humor,

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no emoji.

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You know, none of that sort of stuff.

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And fine if you want to be that way.

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But the funny thing is those people,

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when they put up their work

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hat at the end of the day,

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what are they like?

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They're using emojis.

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They are the very people

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that they're trying not to

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be during the day.

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And in my mind, I'm like,

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why can't we blend these things together,

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at least in some industries?

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You know, just chill out, have some fun.

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Oh, I, you know, I am with you.

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I am with you 100%.

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And I, you know, I, I think that I do that,

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but I just, when it comes to video,

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because I, I,

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it seems to me that most of

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your content is video and I, and I, um,

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I think in some ways you can

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have more fun.

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Like I try to, you know,

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use some humor here and there,

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but I think you can do more

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kind of fun things with video.

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So I want to ask you because

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you're kind of known for

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your whole parody songwriting and

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Can you tell me,

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and which you are the only

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person I know who does that.

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And I mean,

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I don't follow a gazillion people,

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but you're the only person

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that I've ever seen share

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that type of content on LinkedIn.

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And so kind of how did that start?

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Where did it come from?

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And what's kind of been the road for that?

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OK, well, in reverse order,

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there is someone else who I

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initially saw as my arch nemesis.

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How dare you, sir?

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This is my territory.

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I am the parody guy.

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His name is John Lindsay,

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and he's now like a brother to me,

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although he's about old

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enough to be my dad.

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And he's amazing.

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I love him.

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And I hope to meet him one day.

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So at some point after this,

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I can go and tag him in the thing.

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Or if he happens to be watching,

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he can identify himself.

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He's in the legal tech space

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and he does songs, too.

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So just to say there are

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other people out there who

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are having fun with music.

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I just wasn't aware of it

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until I was pointed in

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people's direction.

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And once I got over my ego,

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I realized this is big

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enough for all of us to

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have fun in our own ways.

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And he has his flavor.

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I have mine.

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What brought me to it was

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I'm sure people who are

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watching or listening to

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this have heard of Weird Al

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Yankovic through the years.

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And, you know,

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he was known and is known

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for his parody songs.

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And that seed sort of was born.

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germinated when I was

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probably a teenager and lay

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dormant for decades.

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And then years ago,

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about six or seven years ago,

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I was part of Amy

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Porterfield's community for

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course creation.

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And I wrote a song using a

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parody tune for Don't Stop Believing.

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I think it's by, is it Journey?

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And the response inside that

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group was phenomenal.

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from people and from Amy herself.

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And I thought there's something here.

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Then again, it lay dormant.

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And then I did a song for

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the marketing book podcast,

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which everyone should

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subscribe to if they're not.

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And everyone's a couple of things I did.

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And every time there was this response,

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I thought there's something there,

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but there's so much work.

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So that lay dormant again,

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because I used to do them

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like a music video, you know,

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shot around the house.

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I mean, very low budget,

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but a lot of effort.

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Then an author called Stu

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Hynek wrote a book called,

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I think it's How to Grow

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Your Business Like a Weed.

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And I got in touch with him and said,

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what song, if any?

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And he named a song.

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I said, no can do.

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How about another one?

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And he said, how about Abba,

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something by Abba?

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So I thought instead of knowing me,

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knowing you, it's growing weeds,

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growing you, you know,

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not the cleverest lyrics in the world,

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but that interestingly enough,

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the concept of growing and growing weeds,

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but it was like, okay, listen,

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this is the third time or fourth time.

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Now I'm being given an opportunity.

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to sing songs like this.

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And it just spiraled from there.

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And I've developed the way

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that I do them now.

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I don't do them quite as

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much as I'm now moving more

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into how to tips and things

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like that to help people create video.

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But every once in a while, I mean,

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I've still got about 12 or

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15 songs no one knows I've got.

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Taylor Swift stuff, Hanson from Mbop days,

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all sorts of songs I've got

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waiting to use that tell

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marketing stories.

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so um it's been kind of a

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long journey to get to

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finding what my groove was

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no pun intended and then

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it's just a case of okay

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you know uh do I continue

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with this or not they take

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a lot of effort hours to

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make so that has been the

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thing is finding that sweet

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spot between making content

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that people love that it

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helps the content must help

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them I feel good making it

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how does it help me so it

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acted as a top of funnel

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for me it got me exposure

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And now I've done songs for

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events and that sort of thing as well.

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So it's there.

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It's not my main thing.

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But it is it is there as in

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when it gets pulled out of

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the bag on occasion.

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Well, you know, I really love that.

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And I think that's part of

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the thing that is that.

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is really the standout.

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And I know a few people who

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do things that are,

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that people are drawn to,

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like they try something and

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people are like, Oh, we like that.

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They try something else.

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Somebody tries something.

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Oh, give us more.

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And, you know,

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that kind of caused me

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personally to shift my

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business like about almost

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a year ago now because I

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was having questions asked

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of me about stuff that I'm

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doing now that I like more

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than what I was doing then.

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I was like, OK, well,

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let's give it a shot.

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But, you know,

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one thing that I that I have

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to ask you and and I am a

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big proponent of video.

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I mean,

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I do believe that it's so important.

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It's a way for people to get

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to to know us and, you know,

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like us or not.

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I mean, you know,

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if you you might see my

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video and you might not like me.

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Well, that's fine.

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But but I think people are

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so what holds a lot of

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people back is they're so nervous about

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You know,

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and it's hard to push people

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because I know for me,

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I started doing video.

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It was really hard for me.

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you know, now it doesn't faze me,

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but how can you give,

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and I have a lot of things

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that I want to ask you about,

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but do you have some tips

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because to help people kind

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of get over themselves,

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because it's certainly,

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you have to do that in

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order to be singing on video,

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or I've seen videos by Amy Porterfield.

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I have a,

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I'm taking a course from her

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myself and she's dancing and everything.

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And

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She's certainly not an older woman,

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but she's not like 25 either.

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And I think people tend to think,

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I've had people telling me, well,

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either I'm nervous,

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I'm nervous what people think,

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or I'm too old or whatever.

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Can you give us some advice for that?

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Because that's a real problem for people,

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I think.

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It is.

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I think, yes,

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I started on video going back

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a few years ago.

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So I suspect you and I may

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actually have got into Amy

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Porterfield for similar

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reasons and be in similar

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communities through the years.

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But for me...

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You know, it wasn't easy.

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By the way, for Amy,

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it wasn't easy like that at first.

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You know, when she started,

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she hid behind slide decks,

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which is what everybody did

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with their courses.

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There was no live streaming.

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You know, she got there bit by bit.

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And, you know,

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confidence was a thing for

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her that she struggled with.

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Body image, all sorts of things.

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So everyone,

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the people we all know who are out there,

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did not necessarily wake up

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one day and they had arrived.

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so I i would say for for

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people who are struggling

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for whatever reason you

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know just know that

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whatever your issue is that

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you feel you've got whether

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it's body image confidence

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or something just know that

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there are 10 000 other

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people out there just like

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you so you're not alone

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that's the first thing and

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other people who probably

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have felt and looked

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similar to you, have gone ahead anyway.

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So again, you're not alone.

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Be yourself.

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So right now,

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forget the fact that you're

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even on camera for the world to see yet.

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Just get the camera out.

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The way I started was I

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invested in a tripod.

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I still have the very one.

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You know,

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you hear all the usual stuff

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about natural light and all of that.

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So this is not about all the tech specs,

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okay?

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Right, right.

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But basically,

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stand in front of that camera.

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Get used to yourself.

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It's almost like actually...

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Interesting how body images

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keeps coming up for me right now.

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But you know,

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sometimes people who are

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struggling with body image

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might be told to stand in

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front of a mirror naked and

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just get used to themselves.

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Don't freak out, get used to how you look.

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Well, this is a camera equivalent,

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but perhaps keep your clothes on.

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And just, you know, look at that,

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establish where that lens

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is because often people

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will look at themselves in

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the screen and therefore

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you're not actually making

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eye contact with the viewer.

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And either put pictures, so for example,

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say you've got a wall,

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you could have your tripod

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up a little bit distance

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away from the wall,

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put pictures of a few

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people up there on the wall,

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whether one person, I would say, you know,

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two or three, well, okay, try, try, okay,

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there are no rules.

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Put some pictures up of people

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Talk to them.

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OK,

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the camera just happens to be between

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you and those people or that person.

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Talk to them.

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How do you talk in real life?

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I use my hands as I'm using right now.

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I use my hands a lot.

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I move my body when I talk.

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Find out how you are.

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See if you can do a little

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bit of a self audit on how

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you are when you talk with

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people in a room or if for

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any reason you have to

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stand up and talk to people

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when you're comfortable.

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and practice to get back to

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how you are like that.

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Because what's gonna happen,

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your first inclination will

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be to sound like a Hallmark

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card or something where you're just,

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it's like you're sterilized.

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You don't have that spark.

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However you are as a person,

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that's what you wanna get to.

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So practice that quite a bit.

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Maybe show the video to a

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few people if you don't

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really wanna put it out there yet.

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That's one way to ease into it, okay?

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Or you just grab the bull by

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the horns and you admit it like, hey,

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everybody, this is my first video.

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It probably is gonna suck.

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I wouldn't advise people to do the whole,

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I'm so nervous, I'm so nervous, please,

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because they say that to people.

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And if there's anything that is going to

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it's going to knock your

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confidence even more,

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but it's going to take the

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confidence that your audience has away.

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If you go up there, you're like, hi,

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everybody.

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Oh gosh, I'm so nervous to share this.

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And sometimes that can be like, oh,

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but generally speaking, I think people,

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I've seen this, okay?

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You lose respect for the person,

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even a little bit,

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if they are too authentic

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about all of their

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weaknesses and insecurities.

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So I would say practice, practice,

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get comfortable when you

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think you're ready to

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unleash yourself put your

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first video out there or

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don't take so much time and

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just throw it out even if

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it somehow looks ugly

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Well, you know, I love that.

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And when I first started

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doing video and I still,

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I hate to have photos taken.

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Like I have no photos of myself.

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I was, you know, nervous.

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I'd be on camera and I think, you know,

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I wish I was younger.

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I wish I was thinner, you know,

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but I'm not,

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I'm certainly not getting any younger.

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I haven't gotten a little thinner,

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but you know, you,

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you have to be who you are and, and,

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And I have to say,

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I've done so many videos

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over the years that when I

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look at myself on a video now, it's like,

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I don't even, it's like,

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it's not even me.

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I just don't even think about it anymore.

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I mean, Deb,

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you must have gotten to that

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point from the things that you do.

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Well, I've got to the point where,

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and this might sound a bit ego,

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egotistical or something,

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but I am my biggest fan of my videos now.

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Not always now.

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I will watch them back and I

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will think that's not bad.

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That's not bad.

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You know, uh,

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I couldn't have, I didn't,

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I wouldn't have said that all the time,

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but now I would challenge,

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I would challenge you to find, gosh,

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this is sounding a bit big headed.

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I'm not, I'm not trying to say that,

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but that's,

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it's taken me years to get to

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this point where,

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because a lot of people

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feel they can't make video

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because they see other

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videos and don't even take

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any steps towards it because they think,

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but look at all that stuff

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that's going on in the video.

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I don't know how to do that.

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So they do nothing.

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I would say,

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Talking head.

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OK, so today, earlier today,

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I put out that video to say

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I was chatting with you, you know,

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this evening.

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The most I did with that was add captions.

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OK, that was it.

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That's, you know,

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and a step before that is

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don't even add captions.

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Take advantage of LinkedIn's

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one when you upload them

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and correct them afterwards.

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So you don't even need any

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bells and whistles.

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I like the bells and whistles.

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I use music.

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I use sound effects.

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I have.

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a thing that happens at the

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end of my videos, that works for me.

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That's part of my branding.

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I'm wearing my branding,

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but it took me six or seven

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years to get to this.

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So, yeah.

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No,

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I'm so glad that you said that because

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that is something that I

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was going to ask you about

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because the whole idea, you know,

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and I try to make things compelling,

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add captions, at least, you know, do some

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little bit different camera

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angles or something.

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But the idea, you know,

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if you're just starting,

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just do what you can do.

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And one thing I think that's

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important to know too,

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and I have friends nervous

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about posting anything,

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any kind of content on LinkedIn because,

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oh, you know,

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people are going to judge me

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and all that stuff.

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And the thing is that, first of all,

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most people are not judging you.

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I mean,

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they're not even thinking about you.

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I love that quote, like, you know,

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if you wouldn't worry so

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much about what people

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think if you realize how

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little they think of you.

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And, you know, that's true.

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And also, it is so busy out there,

00:24:05.653 --> 00:24:06.653
as you were saying before.

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If you are posting something

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on LinkedIn or any social media platform,

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not that many people are

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really going to see it.

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Unless you have like 50,000

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followers or something,

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not that many people are going to see it.

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It's sadly true.

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I mean, it's a numbers game, isn't it?

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I mean,

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if you want to exercise in

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depression slash reality or

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maybe encouragement,

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it depends on how you look at it,

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a half glass, what's it,

00:24:38.121 --> 00:24:39.402
glass half empty or half full.

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Take a look at some of the top names,

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whoever the top names are to you,

00:24:42.604 --> 00:24:43.525
the people out there who've

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got tens of thousands into six figures.

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take a look at the reaction

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numbers to their content,

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whatever their content is.

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You know,

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people who've got like 900 and

00:24:56.931 --> 00:24:59.211
something reactions and, you know,

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2000 reactions and, you know,

00:25:01.192 --> 00:25:02.633
ignore the outlier content,

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which is just somehow it

00:25:04.074 --> 00:25:07.214
went viral because of some topical issue.

00:25:07.234 --> 00:25:07.994
But take a look at their

00:25:08.015 --> 00:25:09.796
typical content and then

00:25:09.816 --> 00:25:10.796
work the numbers out,

00:25:11.256 --> 00:25:13.576
the ratio between the reactions,

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you know,

00:25:16.541 --> 00:25:17.403
and the number of followers

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that they have.

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And perhaps you can also

00:25:19.423 --> 00:25:20.545
take a look at the shares.

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I mean,

00:25:20.884 --> 00:25:23.146
shares are just like the reposting

00:25:23.166 --> 00:25:24.188
is the smallest thing.

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People are like,

00:25:25.347 --> 00:25:26.950
please share my content if

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you found it valuable

00:25:27.930 --> 00:25:30.112
because we just don't share.

00:25:30.132 --> 00:25:31.333
I think there's a

00:25:31.353 --> 00:25:32.453
psychological thing there

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almost as if I wanna keep

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this to myself rather than

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I found this amazing thing, check it out.

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But basically do the numbers

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and you'll find out that

00:25:40.459 --> 00:25:41.119
even if you've only got 10

00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:41.619
or 20 reactions,

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And half your comments

00:25:45.602 --> 00:25:47.261
typically because you're

00:25:47.281 --> 00:25:48.282
responding to everybody.

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So if it says 10, it's really only five.

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Do that.

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It'll multiply out to

00:25:53.305 --> 00:25:53.744
sometimes be

00:25:53.785 --> 00:25:55.746
proportionately better than

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the person with 50,000 or 100,000.

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I've seen my content perform

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triple in terms of the

00:26:01.508 --> 00:26:02.468
actual mathematical

00:26:02.508 --> 00:26:04.388
equation than other people.

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But it's just because they

00:26:05.529 --> 00:26:07.670
have 100,000 followers that

00:26:07.710 --> 00:26:08.530
they've got that many.

00:26:08.770 --> 00:26:08.990
You know,

00:26:09.070 --> 00:26:10.951
it would be worse than you and me

00:26:10.971 --> 00:26:12.432
if they were down to a

00:26:13.192 --> 00:26:13.772
couple of thousand.

00:26:14.469 --> 00:26:15.410
Oh, oh, exactly.

00:26:15.470 --> 00:26:18.073
So I just want to say Linda Brubaker,

00:26:18.113 --> 00:26:18.413
who I,

00:26:18.472 --> 00:26:19.874
who I know says she's a nervous

00:26:19.973 --> 00:26:21.816
Nelly because she's an overthinker,

00:26:22.257 --> 00:26:23.938
you know, and, and, you know,

00:26:24.077 --> 00:26:27.602
I would have to say from our conversation,

00:26:27.902 --> 00:26:29.242
the only way to really get

00:26:29.363 --> 00:26:32.086
over this really is to do it.

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So I, I, I,

00:26:35.836 --> 00:26:36.757
This has been so great.

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And we had times just like

00:26:37.957 --> 00:26:40.219
flying by and I want to be respectful.

00:26:40.298 --> 00:26:42.799
So I want to actually share

00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:45.102
my screen and share your

00:26:46.201 --> 00:26:48.804
LinkedIn profile and ask if

00:26:48.864 --> 00:26:50.005
you are interested

00:26:50.882 --> 00:26:52.982
first open to connecting with people,

00:26:53.022 --> 00:26:54.104
but also first,

00:26:54.983 --> 00:26:58.586
if you can share some final thought and,

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you know, we have, I think had a,

00:27:01.048 --> 00:27:01.928
it's been very interesting

00:27:01.968 --> 00:27:03.209
conversation for me and you

00:27:03.249 --> 00:27:04.309
have shared a lot of great

00:27:04.329 --> 00:27:06.211
information and we've

00:27:06.250 --> 00:27:07.250
covered several topics,

00:27:07.310 --> 00:27:08.991
but if you have something,

00:27:09.712 --> 00:27:10.593
what is there something

00:27:10.613 --> 00:27:11.834
that people don't,

00:27:12.482 --> 00:27:14.525
watching now on the replay,

00:27:14.605 --> 00:27:15.945
listening on the podcast

00:27:16.605 --> 00:27:18.807
would really benefit from hearing.

00:27:18.887 --> 00:27:20.949
What's your last tidbit of

00:27:21.009 --> 00:27:23.250
advice or big bit of advice?

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Okay.

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I would say to do a bit of a

00:27:27.273 --> 00:27:29.095
self-assessment, self-audit.

00:27:29.435 --> 00:27:30.817
How do you feel about your content?

00:27:30.936 --> 00:27:31.616
Are you happy?

00:27:31.936 --> 00:27:32.778
Are you getting the sort of

00:27:32.837 --> 00:27:34.138
engagement and interaction

00:27:34.159 --> 00:27:35.400
that you would like?

00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:37.260
Do you think there's more?

00:27:37.682 --> 00:27:40.824
Because if it's no, I'm not, and you're

00:27:41.214 --> 00:27:42.434
yes, I would like more,

00:27:43.016 --> 00:27:43.736
then perhaps there's

00:27:43.776 --> 00:27:44.935
something you can change.

00:27:45.757 --> 00:27:45.957
Now,

00:27:46.116 --> 00:27:47.876
what you could do is go and take a

00:27:47.896 --> 00:27:48.778
look at some of the people

00:27:48.798 --> 00:27:51.137
who inspire you and note

00:27:52.019 --> 00:27:52.959
what it is that they're

00:27:52.979 --> 00:27:56.680
doing that you like and

00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:57.881
think about how you could

00:27:58.300 --> 00:27:59.661
do your own versions of

00:27:59.701 --> 00:28:00.382
that sort of thing.

00:28:02.801 --> 00:28:03.782
There are lots of little

00:28:03.823 --> 00:28:05.442
hacks and I don't mind

00:28:05.482 --> 00:28:08.084
going over slightly at all, quite frankly,

00:28:08.104 --> 00:28:09.104
just because I would like

00:28:09.124 --> 00:28:09.865
to finish this thought

00:28:09.884 --> 00:28:10.644
without rushing it.

00:28:11.270 --> 00:28:12.172
Cool.

00:28:13.073 --> 00:28:15.035
So something I've been

00:28:15.154 --> 00:28:17.737
really I've started training now,

00:28:17.997 --> 00:28:19.739
helping people with how to

00:28:19.858 --> 00:28:22.101
utilize chat GPT to not

00:28:22.141 --> 00:28:23.482
just come up with content,

00:28:23.962 --> 00:28:25.124
because I think sometimes people think,

00:28:25.144 --> 00:28:26.425
well, that's just lazy.

00:28:26.526 --> 00:28:28.788
And I'm not saying to do that,

00:28:28.928 --> 00:28:30.470
although it can do it can

00:28:30.509 --> 00:28:31.309
come up with loads of

00:28:31.349 --> 00:28:32.731
drafts and all sorts of things.

00:28:32.811 --> 00:28:32.971
Fine.

00:28:32.991 --> 00:28:34.393
But what I'm saying is, for example,

00:28:35.013 --> 00:28:35.894
say you found.

00:28:37.941 --> 00:28:40.926
Pick 10 content creators you

00:28:41.047 --> 00:28:42.490
admire for their content.

00:28:44.333 --> 00:28:46.417
Take screenshots of their content.

00:28:48.226 --> 00:28:49.126
You have to have a... I was

00:28:49.426 --> 00:28:49.948
going to say you have to

00:28:49.968 --> 00:28:52.509
have a paid chat GPT account.

00:28:52.549 --> 00:28:56.173
They just released 4.0 a few days ago.

00:28:56.273 --> 00:28:58.155
So you might be able to do this for free,

00:28:58.215 --> 00:28:59.297
although there are limitations.

00:29:00.218 --> 00:29:01.179
What you can basically do is

00:29:01.239 --> 00:29:02.599
whether you do screenshots,

00:29:02.619 --> 00:29:03.921
which have to be good quality,

00:29:05.182 --> 00:29:08.025
or copy and paste text from their posts,

00:29:08.865 --> 00:29:11.368
put all of that into a document and...

00:29:12.208 --> 00:29:14.288
So note who's who and all

00:29:14.328 --> 00:29:15.048
that sort of stuff.

00:29:15.429 --> 00:29:18.309
And you can upload that into chat GPT.

00:29:18.849 --> 00:29:20.069
I've not done this yet myself.

00:29:20.150 --> 00:29:20.349
Okay.

00:29:20.369 --> 00:29:21.211
But this is an idea.

00:29:21.230 --> 00:29:26.011
And then chat with chat GPT and say, okay,

00:29:26.051 --> 00:29:27.951
listen, this is who I am.

00:29:28.011 --> 00:29:29.173
This is what I'm aiming to do.

00:29:29.292 --> 00:29:30.873
So you would create almost

00:29:30.893 --> 00:29:32.713
like a mission statement, brand statement,

00:29:32.753 --> 00:29:33.394
that sort of thing.

00:29:34.229 --> 00:29:35.549
You've got that in a document here.

00:29:35.931 --> 00:29:36.631
You can say,

00:29:36.730 --> 00:29:39.273
these are all the people who inspire me.

00:29:39.933 --> 00:29:41.816
And here are some examples of their posts.

00:29:42.276 --> 00:29:43.938
OK, you can say,

00:29:44.538 --> 00:29:48.021
bearing in mind my brand and my goals,

00:29:48.682 --> 00:29:49.442
which you would state in

00:29:49.462 --> 00:29:51.144
your document and bearing

00:29:51.184 --> 00:29:52.885
in mind the examples I'm giving you.

00:29:53.707 --> 00:29:55.788
How can I give me some ideas?

00:29:56.048 --> 00:29:56.650
And you can even say,

00:29:56.690 --> 00:29:59.752
give me 20 ideas for what I can do.

00:30:00.702 --> 00:30:02.864
with my content,

00:30:03.943 --> 00:30:06.183
think of ChatGPT as the

00:30:06.223 --> 00:30:08.244
know-it-all who can,

00:30:09.105 --> 00:30:10.164
you can tell them anything.

00:30:11.625 --> 00:30:12.726
You can tell them anything.

00:30:13.046 --> 00:30:14.066
I'm not saying the results

00:30:14.125 --> 00:30:15.006
are gonna be something you

00:30:15.026 --> 00:30:16.727
might want or like,

00:30:16.906 --> 00:30:18.047
but it's better than nothing.

00:30:18.186 --> 00:30:21.107
And I've had so many things where I'm like,

00:30:21.167 --> 00:30:21.627
okay, listen,

00:30:21.728 --> 00:30:23.788
I could talk forever as may

00:30:23.827 --> 00:30:26.628
be evident from this now,

00:30:27.429 --> 00:30:28.490
but I could talk forever

00:30:28.690 --> 00:30:29.990
about certain topics.

00:30:30.779 --> 00:30:32.621
but my brain is sometimes it's,

00:30:32.820 --> 00:30:33.662
it's so full.

00:30:33.781 --> 00:30:35.002
I don't know where to start.

00:30:35.803 --> 00:30:39.246
So I, to chat GPT and I say,

00:30:39.306 --> 00:30:40.747
help me organize my thoughts.

00:30:41.166 --> 00:30:41.686
Okay.

00:30:42.147 --> 00:30:43.749
And then I take that and I say, cool.

00:30:43.848 --> 00:30:44.088
Okay.

00:30:44.108 --> 00:30:44.249
Well,

00:30:44.269 --> 00:30:46.170
those are 10 videos I could happily make.

00:30:47.471 --> 00:30:47.671
Right.

00:30:48.192 --> 00:30:50.113
So, so anyway,

00:30:50.813 --> 00:30:51.634
trying to go back to what

00:30:51.673 --> 00:30:52.555
the last thing was where

00:30:52.575 --> 00:30:53.914
you said like advice to

00:30:53.954 --> 00:30:55.616
people at the very least,

00:30:56.528 --> 00:30:57.449
Look at what you're doing

00:30:57.648 --> 00:30:59.130
and be honest with yourself.

00:31:00.109 --> 00:31:01.191
Do I want to or should I

00:31:01.250 --> 00:31:02.131
make some changes?

00:31:02.852 --> 00:31:04.011
Then experiment with those

00:31:04.092 --> 00:31:06.192
changes by finding inspiration.

00:31:06.913 --> 00:31:08.134
Whether or not you want to

00:31:08.394 --> 00:31:10.375
use the tech hacks of using

00:31:10.435 --> 00:31:13.116
ChatGPT to help analyze various things,

00:31:13.597 --> 00:31:15.659
like to say, what is it that is making,

00:31:15.699 --> 00:31:16.898
you know, like maybe ask it.

00:31:17.779 --> 00:31:18.881
What do you think it is that

00:31:19.260 --> 00:31:22.942
is making this post so successful?

00:31:24.214 --> 00:31:25.715
Just have that conversation

00:31:25.935 --> 00:31:27.817
and then see if there's some sort of,

00:31:28.317 --> 00:31:28.637
you know what,

00:31:28.657 --> 00:31:29.618
there are three things I'm

00:31:29.659 --> 00:31:31.599
not doing that I could do.

00:31:32.180 --> 00:31:33.080
I'm not writing,

00:31:33.161 --> 00:31:34.301
I'm not putting a catchy

00:31:34.342 --> 00:31:36.083
thing at the top of my posts.

00:31:37.344 --> 00:31:38.265
What if that's just the one

00:31:38.305 --> 00:31:39.806
thing that I do?

00:31:39.826 --> 00:31:41.527
I'm not giving a call to

00:31:41.666 --> 00:31:42.887
action at the end of my posts.

00:31:42.907 --> 00:31:44.929
What if that's the one thing?

00:31:45.009 --> 00:31:46.809
What's the structure of my storytelling?

00:31:47.550 --> 00:31:48.511
And that applies whether

00:31:48.551 --> 00:31:50.353
it's video or not video.

00:31:50.712 --> 00:31:52.253
So I think a lot of these principles,

00:31:52.433 --> 00:31:53.234
you can take them

00:31:54.280 --> 00:31:55.922
And you can say, okay, well,

00:31:55.942 --> 00:31:57.022
I don't want to do video,

00:31:57.963 --> 00:31:59.065
but I do want to learn

00:31:59.125 --> 00:32:00.605
about how to grab people's attention.

00:32:01.665 --> 00:32:02.027
Okay.

00:32:02.287 --> 00:32:02.787
So again,

00:32:02.826 --> 00:32:03.948
if you're not sure how to do that,

00:32:04.107 --> 00:32:05.788
you could ask ChatGPT how,

00:32:06.329 --> 00:32:07.431
how would you recommend, again,

00:32:07.490 --> 00:32:09.912
this is me and this is what

00:32:09.951 --> 00:32:10.732
I want to achieve.

00:32:11.803 --> 00:32:14.143
How can you give me some suggestions?

00:32:14.763 --> 00:32:15.644
And then you just go back

00:32:15.703 --> 00:32:16.463
and forth and say, no,

00:32:16.483 --> 00:32:17.144
you got that wrong.

00:32:17.163 --> 00:32:18.104
I actually didn't mean that.

00:32:18.163 --> 00:32:18.723
I meant this.

00:32:19.344 --> 00:32:20.505
And then anyway, in the end,

00:32:20.964 --> 00:32:22.025
you can come up with a

00:32:22.164 --> 00:32:25.025
whole game plan on what you want to do.

00:32:25.144 --> 00:32:26.405
And then you can implement that.

00:32:26.425 --> 00:32:27.125
You can say, okay,

00:32:27.145 --> 00:32:28.425
I'm going to be doing this every day.

00:32:28.465 --> 00:32:29.105
The first thing I want to

00:32:29.125 --> 00:32:29.885
start with is that.

00:32:32.047 --> 00:32:33.987
Yeah, it's changed the world.

00:32:36.227 --> 00:32:37.487
We have no excuses now for

00:32:37.527 --> 00:32:38.667
our content being boring.

00:32:39.728 --> 00:32:40.448
You know, we just don't.

00:32:41.853 --> 00:32:42.153
You know,

00:32:42.193 --> 00:32:44.596
I almost wanted to be jumping out

00:32:45.096 --> 00:32:46.258
of my chair here because I

00:32:46.357 --> 00:32:47.538
use it exactly the same way.

00:32:49.260 --> 00:32:52.845
I look at ChatGPT as my very

00:32:52.924 --> 00:32:54.866
inexpensive virtual assistant.

00:32:55.127 --> 00:32:56.328
I brainstorm it.

00:32:56.449 --> 00:32:57.770
I go back and forth.

00:32:58.852 --> 00:33:01.795
I've also used... I also use

00:33:01.954 --> 00:33:03.237
Claude and I have...

00:33:03.997 --> 00:33:05.318
Um, actually I,

00:33:05.479 --> 00:33:06.480
I have a group and I

00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:07.901
recently changed the name

00:33:07.961 --> 00:33:09.502
of the group and I asked like, why,

00:33:09.923 --> 00:33:10.983
why didn't this work?

00:33:11.625 --> 00:33:12.546
I thought it would attract,

00:33:12.605 --> 00:33:13.727
why is it not working?

00:33:14.147 --> 00:33:15.368
And when you think about it,

00:33:15.449 --> 00:33:16.730
rather than just, you know,

00:33:17.010 --> 00:33:19.192
give me some content ideas or whatever,

00:33:19.272 --> 00:33:21.535
when you, when you really have it,

00:33:21.835 --> 00:33:24.939
you know, help you because, um, you know,

00:33:25.439 --> 00:33:26.720
chat GPT is not

00:33:27.401 --> 00:33:29.882
just to, you know, create content, like,

00:33:29.961 --> 00:33:32.082
you know, write a post on, I don't know,

00:33:32.221 --> 00:33:33.721
video for content marketing

00:33:33.761 --> 00:33:36.462
or something of, you know, 800 words.

00:33:37.182 --> 00:33:38.624
When you get into that whole

00:33:38.703 --> 00:33:42.604
conversational sort of interactions,

00:33:43.204 --> 00:33:44.664
it changes everything, I think.

00:33:45.224 --> 00:33:45.605
It does.

00:33:45.644 --> 00:33:47.246
Well, think about how, like right now,

00:33:47.306 --> 00:33:48.826
you and I, we weren't...

00:33:49.586 --> 00:33:50.446
planning on talking about

00:33:50.487 --> 00:33:51.647
chat GPT and now we're

00:33:51.688 --> 00:33:52.208
talking about it the

00:33:52.268 --> 00:33:53.788
conversation has gone this

00:33:54.190 --> 00:33:54.849
in this direction we're

00:33:54.990 --> 00:33:56.672
over time and I don't mind

00:33:56.731 --> 00:33:58.333
again but because one of

00:33:58.353 --> 00:33:59.113
the things that I would

00:33:59.133 --> 00:34:00.034
just encourage people to

00:34:00.094 --> 00:34:03.457
explore is custom GPTs and

00:34:03.477 --> 00:34:04.076
I don't know if you know

00:34:04.096 --> 00:34:06.057
what those are but but

00:34:06.118 --> 00:34:08.159
basically building your own

00:34:09.300 --> 00:34:11.061
context driven engine

00:34:11.342 --> 00:34:12.943
inside of which everything

00:34:13.003 --> 00:34:14.083
is going to be far more

00:34:14.164 --> 00:34:15.304
suited to what you want to

00:34:15.344 --> 00:34:16.766
do so you can build a GPT

00:34:16.826 --> 00:34:18.847
around your brand and and

00:34:19.826 --> 00:34:23.248
And, yeah, it's too much to say about it.

00:34:23.469 --> 00:34:25.130
No, no, no, I know, I know.

00:34:25.150 --> 00:34:26.050
We could go on and sit here

00:34:26.090 --> 00:34:26.952
and talk certainly for

00:34:26.992 --> 00:34:28.733
another half an hour at least on this.

00:34:29.153 --> 00:34:30.894
And I will also just mention,

00:34:30.914 --> 00:34:31.815
because I'm looking into

00:34:31.856 --> 00:34:32.597
doing that myself,

00:34:32.637 --> 00:34:34.498
learning how to do it from ChatGPT,

00:34:34.898 --> 00:34:36.920
but I also, there are many of...

00:34:39.902 --> 00:34:41.262
I don't know what you would call them,

00:34:41.422 --> 00:34:42.643
personalized applications

00:34:42.682 --> 00:34:43.862
or whatever out there.

00:34:43.882 --> 00:34:46.244
I'm putting together a

00:34:46.884 --> 00:34:50.085
program right now and I use

00:34:50.125 --> 00:34:51.684
the course assistant

00:34:52.125 --> 00:34:53.965
application of ChatGPT to

00:34:54.025 --> 00:34:55.385
help me put that together.

00:34:55.726 --> 00:34:56.565
So anyway, again,

00:34:56.585 --> 00:34:57.746
we could go on and on and on.

00:34:57.826 --> 00:34:59.286
So I just want to briefly,

00:34:59.327 --> 00:35:00.327
just because I was so

00:35:00.427 --> 00:35:01.467
interested to listen to you

00:35:01.487 --> 00:35:02.567
and I didn't want to be looking at,

00:35:02.847 --> 00:35:04.088
I wanted people to see you

00:35:04.907 --> 00:35:07.289
rather than your LinkedIn profile

00:35:09.628 --> 00:35:10.449
Because, you know,

00:35:10.469 --> 00:35:11.630
we were having this really

00:35:11.710 --> 00:35:12.811
interesting conversation,

00:35:13.110 --> 00:35:14.072
but I just want to bring it

00:35:14.152 --> 00:35:15.532
up back one more time.

00:35:15.572 --> 00:35:17.193
And I think it's so incredibly,

00:35:17.554 --> 00:35:18.155
you were talking,

00:35:18.175 --> 00:35:18.875
we're talking about

00:35:18.974 --> 00:35:21.916
branding earlier and I love your whole,

00:35:22.056 --> 00:35:22.777
you have your,

00:35:22.958 --> 00:35:25.338
your banner and your

00:35:25.498 --> 00:35:27.199
sweatshirt and everything.

00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:30.402
And it's just, it's just so, yeah.

00:35:31.737 --> 00:35:33.219
of representative really of

00:35:33.338 --> 00:35:34.679
a reflection of of who you

00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:36.621
are to when you get to talk

00:35:36.641 --> 00:35:38.121
to you I have my amazing

00:35:38.181 --> 00:35:39.541
wife to thank for for

00:35:39.601 --> 00:35:40.623
taking the image that I

00:35:40.663 --> 00:35:41.663
gave her and making the

00:35:41.722 --> 00:35:44.485
face look like me um she

00:35:44.525 --> 00:35:45.746
did that she she's um

00:35:45.806 --> 00:35:46.525
teaching herself to

00:35:46.585 --> 00:35:47.666
illustrate so I think she

00:35:47.686 --> 00:35:48.806
did a pretty amazing job

00:35:49.447 --> 00:35:51.309
wow she she certainly did

00:35:51.389 --> 00:35:53.929
and lucky for you but so

00:35:54.030 --> 00:35:55.391
are you are you open to

00:35:55.451 --> 00:35:57.072
connecting with people on on linkedin

00:35:57.771 --> 00:35:58.331
Absolutely.

00:35:58.351 --> 00:35:59.793
I think especially, I mean,

00:35:59.894 --> 00:36:01.416
I used to sort of bang the

00:36:01.436 --> 00:36:03.239
drum about personal invites,

00:36:03.380 --> 00:36:05.103
but I appreciate now with

00:36:05.123 --> 00:36:06.545
the limitations for those

00:36:06.585 --> 00:36:09.269
who don't have a paid account, you know,

00:36:10.344 --> 00:36:11.045
By all means,

00:36:11.085 --> 00:36:12.885
if anyone wants to connect and chat,

00:36:13.726 --> 00:36:14.226
please do.

00:36:14.626 --> 00:36:15.628
You'd be most welcome.

00:36:17.188 --> 00:36:18.188
And feel free to follow it

00:36:18.248 --> 00:36:19.969
up with a little, you know,

00:36:20.030 --> 00:36:21.911
who you are and that sort of thing.

00:36:22.291 --> 00:36:23.972
But for sure, connect.

00:36:24.331 --> 00:36:25.893
And if you need any help, I do offer,

00:36:25.913 --> 00:36:27.634
we start with a free call.

00:36:28.494 --> 00:36:29.773
And, and I've,

00:36:29.893 --> 00:36:30.795
I've given those where

00:36:30.815 --> 00:36:32.534
that's all the people wanted.

00:36:32.574 --> 00:36:33.655
They scribbled down notes,

00:36:33.715 --> 00:36:34.675
they went off and they're

00:36:34.715 --> 00:36:35.735
implementing stuff.

00:36:36.235 --> 00:36:36.956
So there's no, I'm,

00:36:37.115 --> 00:36:38.815
I'm no longer a salesman.

00:36:38.896 --> 00:36:40.356
I used to be years ago and I

00:36:40.396 --> 00:36:41.237
didn't really enjoy it.

00:36:41.317 --> 00:36:43.077
So you don't get a hard sale from me.

00:36:43.097 --> 00:36:45.657
Um, but if you'd like to get, uh,

00:36:46.237 --> 00:36:47.077
get together on a video

00:36:47.117 --> 00:36:49.659
call and just chat through

00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:50.139
what some of your

00:36:50.179 --> 00:36:51.938
challenges are around content creation,

00:36:52.179 --> 00:36:53.199
I'd be happy to hop on a call.

00:36:53.219 --> 00:36:54.239
You can do that via the link.

00:36:54.940 --> 00:36:55.320
And, um,

00:36:56.101 --> 00:36:56.862
whether you want to do that

00:36:57.181 --> 00:36:59.282
and then move on to something else,

00:36:59.322 --> 00:37:00.423
there are options available

00:37:00.463 --> 00:37:01.605
for you via the link.

00:37:01.864 --> 00:37:03.465
One of the things I do is

00:37:03.505 --> 00:37:04.206
help people with their

00:37:04.226 --> 00:37:06.788
video by hopping on a call

00:37:06.827 --> 00:37:08.208
with them for a period of time,

00:37:09.048 --> 00:37:11.070
recording that call and

00:37:11.391 --> 00:37:13.552
having a conversation that

00:37:13.612 --> 00:37:14.952
helps them bring out

00:37:15.112 --> 00:37:16.293
everything naturally.

00:37:16.554 --> 00:37:17.655
So I ask very specific

00:37:17.735 --> 00:37:19.315
questions and then I take

00:37:19.376 --> 00:37:21.077
all of that and create content for them.

00:37:21.750 --> 00:37:23.951
So that's a service that I offer as well.

00:37:24.010 --> 00:37:24.791
So for those who are

00:37:24.911 --> 00:37:26.012
struggling with video and

00:37:26.032 --> 00:37:26.831
all that sort of stuff,

00:37:27.371 --> 00:37:28.432
I can do it for them and

00:37:28.532 --> 00:37:29.733
give you back a video that

00:37:29.773 --> 00:37:32.134
could be as simple as you

00:37:32.173 --> 00:37:33.434
like or a bit more bells

00:37:33.474 --> 00:37:34.394
and whistles as you like.

00:37:34.474 --> 00:37:37.235
So those are the things that

00:37:37.275 --> 00:37:38.597
I do as well as consultation.

00:37:39.251 --> 00:37:40.092
Well, I love that.

00:37:40.371 --> 00:37:41.932
And the last thing that I want to say,

00:37:41.972 --> 00:37:42.853
I'm sure that can be

00:37:42.934 --> 00:37:44.135
extremely helpful because I

00:37:44.175 --> 00:37:46.556
have a good buddy of mine

00:37:46.936 --> 00:37:49.458
who is great on a LinkedIn live show,

00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:50.760
chatty and everything else.

00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:52.242
Or if they're doing a presentation,

00:37:52.961 --> 00:37:54.242
put a video, you know,

00:37:54.643 --> 00:37:55.483
the phone up and try to

00:37:55.503 --> 00:37:56.525
make a video and it looks

00:37:56.565 --> 00:37:57.545
like a hostage video.

00:37:57.945 --> 00:37:59.166
So it's just, you know,

00:37:59.266 --> 00:38:00.648
but it's- Maybe that's his thing.

00:38:01.009 --> 00:38:03.170
Maybe that's- No, no, no, it's not.

00:38:03.431 --> 00:38:04.751
But it's, you know what it is?

00:38:04.851 --> 00:38:05.731
A lot of it is just-

00:38:06.952 --> 00:38:07.773
it's the mindset.

00:38:07.974 --> 00:38:09.355
It's really that mindset.

00:38:09.574 --> 00:38:11.277
And I'm sure with people have you do that,

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that it kind of opens the

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door for them to,

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to do things for themselves.

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So again,

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I thank you so much for being here.

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This has been such a treat for me to,

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to actually be able to sit

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and chat with you.

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Um,

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and thank you to people who have been

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here.

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I've been seeing some, um,

00:38:27.148 --> 00:38:28.528
reactions even though people

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don't sometimes comment we

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even have people joining us

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on instagram so thanks so

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much for everyone who's

00:38:34.773 --> 00:38:36.074
being here thank you so

00:38:36.134 --> 00:38:37.996
much ryan for saying yes

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it's been such a treat um

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and everyone else thank you

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so much uh yeah yeah I look

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forward to uh maybe

00:38:45.121 --> 00:38:46.362
chatting again sometime if

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we want to go into more specifics

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You know, we can, yeah,

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there's just so much we could talk about.

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We could have a whole show

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just about chat GPT, couldn't we?

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So we could, we could,

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and I will definitely be

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taking you up on that.

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So thank you so much and everyone else.

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Goodbye for now.

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I'll see you next week and

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have a great rest of your day.

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Goodbye.

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Oh, okay.

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I'm missing my, okay.